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Old 10-01-2005, 11:21 AM
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Re: 'Net' Handspeed -- Swinging Versus Hitting
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How do we keep the Belt Speed/Hand Speed constant during Release? Swingers use Momentum Transfer, Hitters use Right Arm Thrust. One is more effective than the other.
Momentum Transfer is indeed more effective than Right Triceps Thrust in terms of minimizing Release Deceleration. And all other things being equal, that would result in a lower Clubhead Speed at Impact.

But...'all other things' are not equal. The Right Triceps Muscle Power is capable of producing tremendous Hand Speed, perhaps exceeding that of Momentum Transfer Centrifugal Power. Therefore, even after the Release Slowdown, it is possible for the Hitter's net Handspeed to be equal to (or even greater than) that of the Swinger.

In my 1982 GSEM Certification Class, Homer Kelley illustrated that point using Release illustrations from Search For The Perfect Swing, a book published the year prior to The Golfing Machine.

That's why Right Arm Swingers get more distance than momentum transfer swingers with their lower hand speed.

Yoda....I don't have a copy in front of me, but I believe "Search for the Perfect Swing" came out in the mid to late 60's (1965 or 1967??? someone with a copy handy clarify this....thanks). Or was it the research for the book that was done in the mid to late 60s???

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Old 10-01-2005, 12:48 PM
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Yoda....I don't have a copy in front of me, but I believe "Search for the Perfect Swing" came out in the mid to late 60's (1965 or 1967??? someone with a copy handy clarify this....thanks). Or was it the research for the book that was done in the mid to late 60s???
Search For The Perfect Swing was published in 1968, the year before the 1969 publication of The Golfing Machine. No second edition was ever published -- Homer Kelley said it was because of fundamental errors that could not be resolved by the two authors (Cochran and Stobbs) or the various researchers involved. Interest in the book was revived in the mid-80s, and there have since been five printings, the first in 1986 and the last in 1999.
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Search For The Perfect Swing was published in 1968, the year before the 1969 publication of The Golfing Machine. No second edition was ever published -- Homer Kelley said it was because of fundamental errors that could not be resolved by the two authors (Cochran and Stobbs) or the various researchers involved. Interest in the book was revived in the mid-80s, and there have since been five printings, the first in 1986 and the last in 1999.

Yoda,

Cochran and Stobbs came out with an updated verion in 2005. In fact, you can buy it Walmart online for $16

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=3341304
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Old 10-31-2005, 04:07 AM
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Yoda,

Cochran and Stobbs came out with an updated verion in 2005. In fact, you can buy it Walmart online for $16

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=3341304
Do you know what is updated? Or is it merely a reprint?

I suspect a reprint....just curious.
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:09 AM
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Yoda,

Cochran and Stobbs came out with an updated verion in 2005. In fact, you can buy it Walmart online for $16

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=3341304
Thanks, Palmreader, for information regarding this latest reprinting. However...

As there has been no revision of the original text, the information remains the same.
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:28 PM
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lol gotta love Pelz's little endorsement on the top of the cover:

"The only book of it's kind in the world."

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Are you sure, Mr. Pelz?

Ya, that's right.....go use a SBST Stroke....

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Re: 'Net' Handspeed -- Swinging Versus Hitting
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That's why Right Arm Swingers get more distance than momentum transfer swingers with their lower hand speed.

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Old 10-01-2005, 02:34 PM
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Re: 'Net' Handspeed -- Swinging Versus Hitting
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That's why Right Arm Swingers get more distance than momentum transfer swingers with their lower hand speed.

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Whenever the words 'Right Arm Swing' appear anywhere, I can bet you a million dollars that Delaware Golf is always just a step away!

Yes.....and I do use a Right Arm Swing.....per Tomasello's July 1991 Golf Illustrated interview and his May 1992 video from his Deer Track studio.

PM me with any Right Arm Swing questions....

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Old 10-02-2005, 11:21 PM
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Just curious.....

Am I the only one out of almost 1000 people that isnt entirely comfortable or doesnt entirely comprehend the previous posts on triggering and the relationships previously noted??? I dont argue for arguments sake, but when I am 'not getting it', I certainly will present my understanding. But I'm the only one????? Ok....I can live with that. I think.

I am still sorting through it Lynn and Tong - but I am having some issues reconciling everything. I hope to put a post up midweek, time allowing. But man am I in it deep!

Thanks!

Patrick
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:00 AM
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Just curious.....

Am I the only one out of almost 1000 people that isnt entirely comfortable or doesnt entirely comprehend the previous posts on triggering and the relationships previously noted??? I dont argue for arguments sake, but when I am 'not getting it', I certainly will present my understanding. But I'm the only one????? Ok....I can live with that. I think.

I am still sorting through it Lynn and Tong - but I am having some issues reconciling everything. I hope to put a post up midweek, time allowing. But man am I in it deep!

Thanks!

Patrick
Yoda,

Put up Tomasello's May 1992 video and I think you will end Patrick's confusion!!!

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