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Old 04-01-2005, 02:43 PM
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Left Wrist Action & Hinge Action
Do any of you find that more of a Single Wrist Action Takeaway, where the Left Wrist is not Turned, works well with Angled Hinging, for a SWINGER?

I realize that Hinge Action is accomplished during the Impact Interval... but do you find that certain BACKSWING components work better with certain Hinge Actions?

Standard Wrist Action... of course works well with Horizontal Hinging and Swinging.
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Old 04-05-2005, 08:45 AM
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RE: Left Wrist Action & Hinge Action
Yes, I have found this to be helpful as well. It helps me to visualize and rehearse the following:

Horizontal Hinging:
Toe Up on both sides of the ball when the club is parallel to the ground and the target line (swing Toe Up to Toe Up). This is a "full roll" feel.

Angled Hinging:
Instead of toe up to toe up, I visualize the leading edge of the clubface to be parallel to my spine angle halfway back and halfway through. Angled hinging is synonymous with that "no roll" feel that you are getting.

Vertical Hinging:
Leading edge pointing to the ground in the backswing, leading edge pointing at the sky when the club is parallel to the ground and the target line. The only way to accomplish this is to have a "reverse roll" feel.
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Old 05-16-2005, 05:07 PM
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Re: Left Wrist Action & Hinge Action
Originally Posted by lagster
Do any of you find that more of a Single Wrist Action Takeaway, where the Left Wrist is not Turned, works well with Angled Hinging, for a SWINGER?

I realize that Hinge Action is accomplished during the Impact Interval... but do you find that certain BACKSWING components work better with certain Hinge Actions?

Standard Wrist Action... of course works well with Horizontal Hinging and Swinging.
Yes, I wanted to do a post on this topic too! It works quite well for me, but I wasn't sure if it's a mechanically valid procedure. Because if you don't tuned your left wrist as much during the backswing, but you execute the proper horizontal hinge during downswing, then that means the clubface would be more closed than it should be, wouldn't it?
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Old 05-16-2005, 05:24 PM
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What would it be with toe up on the backswing and vertical hinging on follow thru. I use this for little flop, soft shots??
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Old 05-16-2005, 07:32 PM
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For a hands manipulated swinger, this would be alright, but a true swinger really needs the benefit of the standard wrist action. It allows the 'roll' to be smooth, at the same RPM's - unlike the hands manipulated swinger, where the roll must be 'timed'

In fact, the more I add startup swivel into my motion, the easier I find it is to have a smooth release - as long as I 'start' the roll on the downswing, CF takes over and does the rest.

The more you 'give up control to gain control', the closer to toe up/toe up you will be. Let the physics of the swinging club help you!
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Old 05-18-2005, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
For a hands manipulated swinger, this would be alright, but a true swinger really needs the benefit of the standard wrist action. It allows the 'roll' to be smooth, at the same RPM's - unlike the hands manipulated swinger, where the roll must be 'timed'

In fact, the more I add startup swivel into my motion, the easier I find it is to have a smooth release - as long as I 'start' the roll on the downswing, CF takes over and does the rest.

The more you 'give up control to gain control', the closer to toe up/toe up you will be. Let the physics of the swinging club help you!
Where do you start the roll???? From the end, from the top, from release?
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Old 05-18-2005, 03:56 PM
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As you are learning, start the roll as soon as you begin down as long as you uncock FIRST, then roll. Like you are trying to throw the club AWAY from the target, in the plane of your left wrist cock.

In reality, it is the pivot that really 'does' the roll for you, but as you are learning, you'll begin to feel the 'smooth' roll if you try the extremes first (use a weak grip and roll as hard as you can, as long as you are on plane)

You will find fairly quickly that once you can feel the 'heavy' club (imagine it is as heavy as a sledge hammer, but let it 'swing') the roll will take care of itself as your balance and rhythm improve. As a swinger, balance and rhythm/tempo can not be stressed enough.

Practice the uncock then roll swinging two or three clubs held together, with your eyes closed. Feel that 'heavy' club, and the rhythm of its swinging motion. Back and through, back and through. You'll soon start to feel CF 'helping' you if you just let it. One long smooth roll from the top to finish. Keep your pivot moving by thinking of firing that right knee at the ball.
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Old 05-18-2005, 04:46 PM
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From what i've learned of swinging, as long as you don't OVERROLL it open the sequenced release will happen without trouble.

When you start overrolling, it can't get back enough and your brain knows it and all kind of bad things happen.

Thats why when i warm up, and/or practice, i use one arm swinging pitch shots from a wedge to a 6 iron. Sometimes i can hit them so pure i wonder why i use two lol
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Originally Posted by EdZ
Like you are trying to throw the club AWAY from the target, in the plane of your left wrist cock.
E,

Could you expand on this? I can smell what you're cookin' but I ain't quite in the kitchen yet.

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Could you expand on this? I can smell what you're cookin' but I ain't quite in the kitchen yet.
Ahaha. I like that...

...lol, carry on.
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