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Old 09-20-2012, 07:07 AM
spalding spalding is offline
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Fighting smothered duck hooks! I suspect it might be related to my right wrist straightening into impact, but I can also feel my right elbow tensed at set up (maybe trying too much EA?)...probably making it hard to RFT on plane and coming OTT?






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Old 09-27-2012, 01:40 PM
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It's very probably your right shoulder moving too much outward and not enough downward on the DS. Try tracing the plane line with your right shoulder.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
It's very probably your right shoulder moving too much outward and not enough downward on the DS. Try tracing the plane line with your right shoulder.
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Research Stardown Waggles or Downswing Waggles. Skip to Yodas posts ideally.

Three prime considerations : club face , club head path and hinge action. The latter being both a final piece to the corrective process but also often presenting itself as a seriously damaging swing compensation that needs to be eradicating ... but after you have fixed the prime flaws of path and face angle. Flaws and compensations . We compensate for our flaws to cook up some sort of a way to get from a to b , often subconsciously interestingly .

Research ball flight laws , there is a cause and effect . Clubface and club path (primarily) combine to create the ball reaction you're seeing. Fix the face and the path and learn to hit draw shots that start to the right of your target and draw back to the target. Research "cut shot therapy" . The draw I mention will require a face that is pointed right of the target at impact and a path that is pointed even further right.

Realize that in your attempt to prevent the duck hooks you may also be cooking up several subconscious compensations.... Say for instance , a guy who swings severely out to in and occasionally hits a ball that starts left and curves more left MIGHT start to hold off the face , and/ or vertical hing it , Steer the face square to the hole. It prevents the dreaded left to left shot but brings with it a severe drop in power. This guy goes from a left to left shot to an underpowered high floating fade or slice . His path is consistently to the left , out to in , big time, but his face is all over the place closed to wide open vis a vis his path (open when he steers it holds it at the target) . In the end that steering will have to go but for now it gets him into the fairway but way back of his buddies drives , even though he may be bigger and stronger.

To get back to compression and to hit the draw shot he has to swing in to out and have the face square to where he wants it at impact and close the face per Horizontal ... the latter being something diametrically opposed to his subconscious compensation (vertical hinge Steering) and his conscious fear of the left side . But, the ball flight laws are laws of physics and there is no other way!

Fix the path , then the face angle , then the hinge action. No point fixing the hinge action first. Start with shorter shots then go to longer shots . Build it up slowly , if it doesnt work go back to a shorter shots. Watch your divots, keep swinging out until your divots point straight. You'll be amazed at how much in to out effort this will take. On the range do two start down waggles for every out to in swing pathed shot you hit. Do them quickly and then without much thought hit a ball . Dont intervene in any way , with any other thoughts , let the correct feel the Startdown waggle produces stay present while you move quickly to hitting a ball. As if the ball wasnt there. As if it were another practice stroke. We dont steer our practice strokes , for some reason. If you cant swing in to out and take a straight divot call your local pga pro.

PS you can also watch the clubhead blur... see it starting to move from outside in to inside out. It will take some real inside out effort to get it to even straighten out (point along your desired plane line) .... realize that this effort is, for you, necessary to hit good golf shots. That this effort will promote better mechanics as well. Dont try to make the blur a straight line it should appear ever so slightly arced or curved it being a (somewhat) circular clubhead orbit you are looking at. Trying to make it straight for long lengths is another form of Steering. OK when putting , for some guys , but to absolutely no one who wants a fully compressed long shot.

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