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Old 11-05-2011, 04:23 PM
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Left arm role in hitting
Hitting is often described as a straightening right arm pushing the left arm down and out in the downswing.
Wouldn�t the right arm hitting be more solid if the left arm was tightly linked to the chest during the right arm thrust?
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:44 AM
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Hitting is often described as a straightening right arm pushing the left arm down and out in the downswing.
Wouldn�t the right arm hitting be more solid if the left arm was tightly linked to the chest during the right arm thrust?
If your left arm is tight to the chest then the Hands can not accelerate any faster than that amount which the rotating pivot will provide. If however the left arm separates from the chest , accelerates away from the pivot .....then more hand speed is possible. Be it from CF Throwout or Right Arm Drive OUt.
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:19 PM
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If your left arm is tight to the chest then the Hands can not accelerate any faster than that amount which the rotating pivot will provide. If however the left arm separates from the chest , accelerates away from the pivot .....then more hand speed is possible. Be it from CF Throwout or Right Arm Drive OUt.
Since there is no #4 in Hitting, there is no pivot, so if you pinned your left arm, the right triceps would have to push the whole left shoulder girdle out of the way, rather than just the left arm.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:13 AM
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Thanks for wise comments but I still wonder if letting the right arm pass the left one pinned to the chest during the downthrust would generate more power.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by labrador View Post
Thanks for wise comments but I still wonder if letting the right arm pass the left one pinned to the chest during the downthrust would generate more power.
Depends on the arrangement of the other components....
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
Since there is no #4 in Hitting, there is no pivot, so if you pinned your left arm, the right triceps would have to push the whole left shoulder girdle out of the way, rather than just the left arm.
This is not true for 4 barrel hitting....
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:42 PM
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This is not true for 4 barrel hitting....
Yes it is. The pivot in 4 barrel hitting stalls very quickly in the DS. The right shoulder drives briefly down plane and then the right triceps fires off of it like a backstop. If the pivot continues, you're switting.
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Old 11-08-2011, 10:28 PM
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Yes it is. The pivot in 4 barrel hitting stalls very quickly in the DS. The right shoulder drives briefly down plane and then the right triceps fires off of it like a backstop. If the pivot continues, you're switting.
Action vs. Motion....the pivot doesn't stall....4 barrel hitter and 3 barrel swinger have the same startdown...easier to push a cannon ball that is rolling than one that is stationary...

Hitters pivot...period.
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
If your left arm is tight to the chest then the Hands can not accelerate any faster than that amount which the rotating pivot will provide. If however the left arm separates from the chest , accelerates away from the pivot .....then more hand speed is possible. Be it from CF Throwout or Right Arm Drive OUt.
You state this as if it is "given"...can you support the above?

Does this apply to "lower planes"? Does this apply to angle of approach procedure only?

Why is more handspeed possible due to the separation? Given the main speed comes from the powerpackage....does the pivot supply speed or "positioning"?
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
You state this as if it is "given"...can you support the above?

Does this apply to "lower planes"? Does this apply to angle of approach procedure only?

Why is more handspeed possible due to the separation? Given the main speed comes from the powerpackage....does the pivot supply speed or "positioning"?
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1. Not with data, no. But logically I'd suggest that if it were more powerful to not let the left arm accelerate away from the turning body then we'd see it in other sports. A tennis backhand , a frisbee toss etc etc. I cant think of a throwing like motion where the arm stays tied to the body.

2. Yes. But from low elbow planes , especially with Angled Hinging given its associated reduced clubhead travel (Hogan) the left arm will feel more connected to the body through the shot. Which indeed it is. Some folks describe this pattern in other ways ....swinging left etc with hankies under the arms etc. You will lose some power this way if not via the lack of left arm blast off , then by the reduced clubhead travel of Angled (and the slip on the point of contact between ball and face of Angled unless compensated for at address).

3. Angle or Arc

4. Hand speed is increased as the Left Arm Accelerates away, gets thrown out from the Turning Pivot. If there is no blast off the Hand Speed is a product of the Turning Pivot Center only. Proportionate to the length of the radius from center to hand. You could also argue that the radius is longer when the Left Arm separates. Think about Downswing when the Left ARm is parallel to ground say..... The radius from left hand to center, given no separation (which is ideal at this point ) the center would be the pivot center. Or about where the left elbow is if the left arm lies across the chest. Upon blast off the center of the radius moves to the left shoulder...which is a longer lever. No? Out on a limb here I know.

5. Zone 2 Power. But Zone 1 is Zone 1 for a reason though.

Buck I know where you're coming from ...... I feel plugged in too, sometimes. When Angled Hinging on an Elbow Plane. I can hit it almost as long that way. Almost . Its a great pattern for sure. Especially for good players who dont want to ever hook it again. You know that footage of Hogan where he's tilting back and hammering a high long drive in the Power Golf shot making demonstration shot at Augusta ? Looks like he's throwing his arms off and fast to me. Like a long drive guy.

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