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Old 05-05-2010, 09:00 PM
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The "Golf Swing" is a Misnomer
You fellows have forgotten more about the golf swing than I will ever know, but I've come to the following conclusion with regard to the "swing":

The golf swing is not a swing at all. When I think of the phrase "golf swing" I think of an arm generated activity. And, that's been my problem. Working hard and experimenting over the past few weeks I've concluded that the "golf swing" is a pivot generated activity with the arms, hands and club just going along for the ride.

I am currently working on making a big shoulder turn, "setting" myself at the top, "driving" my pivot, and allowing nature to take its course. It's a work in progress to be sure, but when done correctly the results are impressive. There is no lag to hold, there is no conscious effort to drive the right elbow into the side, there is no need to hit down on the ball. It all just...happens. The pivot makes it so.

The "golf swing" isn't a swing at all. The "swing" is just the reaction to a well executed pivot. Without the pivot there is no swing.

Anyway, just an observation from Joe Sixpack.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:04 PM
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You fellows have forgotten more about the golf swing than I will ever know, but I've come to the following conclusion with regard to the "swing":

The golf swing is not a swing at all. When I think of the phrase "golf swing" I think of an arm generated activity. And, that's been my problem. Working hard and experimenting over the past few weeks I've concluded that the "golf swing" is a pivot generated activity with the arms, hands and club just going along for the ride.

I am currently working on making a big shoulder turn, "setting" myself at the top, "driving" my pivot, and allowing nature to take its course. It's a work in progress to be sure, but when done correctly the results are impressive. There is no lag to hold, there is no conscious effort to drive the right elbow into the side, there is no need to hit down on the ball. It all just...happens. The pivot makes it so.

The "golf swing" isn't a swing at all. The "swing" is just the reaction to a well executed pivot. Without the pivot there is no swing.

Anyway, just an observation from Joe Sixpack.
Been there, done that. We'll be right here.

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Old 05-05-2010, 09:57 PM
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Been there, done that. We'll be right here.
That was funny . . . .

Sean . . . . there are PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO THINK JUST AS YOU DO . . . and there are plenty of 'em that will whip everybody on this board . . .

I admire your efforts to simplify . . . and wish you the best of luck . . . if you understand or instinctively got certain fundamental alignments then you maybe able to do just as you have described . . . much of the posting here for 90% of golfers is way overkill for sure. You don't have to know the difference and be able to articulate what a snap release versus a sweep release is. Like Hogan said . . . he didn't need to do everything good . . . just a few things good. But the trick is figuring out what those "few good things are" FOR YOU. Could be you have found it. I agree that the pivot is vital . . . so that could be your "few good things". But if it ain't . . . like D said . . . . the people are waiting.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:39 PM
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Sean1,

I enjoyed your statement. And agree 66.6% with what you say. I think the pivot motion is the most important part and also the one that is most difficult to master.

Of course there's a lot of stuff you can do with your trailing hand that just plain and simple makes golf more controllable and enjoyable but that is something you can attend to later.

But if you're only looking for good ball contact and distance for now your approach can get you almost all the way.

Daryl,

When you get so far ahead of the rest of us in the TGM department that only 12 pc understand what you talk about - you can pursue a career as a comedian. Elegant humor.
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Old 05-06-2010, 06:09 AM
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I'm trying to reduce the swing to a fundamental simplicity that will allow me to get the ball in the hole with the fewest strokes.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:20 AM
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I'm trying to reduce the swing to a fundamental simplicity that will allow me to get the ball in the hole with the fewest strokes.
Flat left wrist
Lag pressure point
Straight plane line

For people-shaped golfers.
That is simplicity.

Or there is always the alternative- "Foot Wedge"
Either will allow the golfer to get the ball in the hole with the fewest strokes.

My point being..........

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Old 05-06-2010, 08:57 AM
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Be careful as Homer wrote something to the effect that the golfers game falls apart when the focus leaves the hands.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
Flat left wrist
Lag pressure point
Straight plane line

For people-shaped golfers.
That is simplicity.

Or there is always the alternative- "Foot Wedge"
Either will allow the golfer to get the ball in the hole with the fewest strokes.

My point being..........

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Homer stated you only needed to learn three things:
Up the turned shoulder plane
Down the turned shoulder plane
Learn a hinge
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:47 AM
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I'm trying to reduce the swing to a fundamental simplicity that will allow me to get the ball in the hole with the fewest strokes.
"Support the on plane swinging force in balance"

support = lag pressure

The golf swing IS a swing (for swingers). That is a very important thing to understand.

the distiction in your misnomer is what the golfer should focus on to make the club swing, the body or the hands.

The traditional view has the pivot getting all the attention, and in some patterns that works (a pure CF swinging pattern - Knudson), but it must be a completely PURE swinginging motion. Physics is in control in that view. You can't get in the way of the 'swing', or you are in trouble.

TGM puts geometry in control, and hence the focus is on the hands to go up the plane, down the plane and have a hinge.

The club still can 'swing', but the feel and control of that swing is in the hands.

Ultimately it doesn't matter at all what the body does, it only matters what the club does, and how much the club is supported at impact (force).

If the human machine were simpler, we'd all swing like l-L!
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Since our first lesson together, through PM's and E-mails, Sean has decide that Swinging has more advantages than Hitting. As he converts to Swinging and moves away from the "dark side", his initial focus is on the Pivot and how it produces the Pulling Forces that creates more distance (Physics).
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