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Old 03-21-2010, 08:25 PM
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Movement, just keep it mowing?
I have now built my swing on elimination of excessive movements. Those little unnecessary things we flop around during a swing. Therefore I now start from a stationary position. I think that is a problem, for me anyway. I believe I useto be in continuous motion before I started the swing. any swing, chip, putt, full or partial. I misshit more from a stop position than with movement. As an example. I can line up 6 balls and step into address and swing one after another with all solid hits but if I pause and check and think about alignments I may misshit? Do I have a common problem? TGM doesn't recogize this problem does it?
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:55 PM
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TGM recognises the need for rhythm and lag from the get go.

A little forward press can help set up the lag, to just getting the feel from the take away from a standard address.

Either way it would appear you are searching for a feel for lag that your old motion made happen more obviously to you.
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:51 PM
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How much is enough?
Thanks GG

I need help- let me state the question as best I can.
I have been looking at 3-F-5 seriously. I jump to the end requirement quickly. check - Stance, Grip and plane line but I do this in a static mode. If I take a literal read of 3-F-5 and use 1, 2, 3 to do this check then I would be doing them dynamicly(sp)and the address routine will take a long time. Should I use a longer routine until I am comfortable? Should I later shorten the routine? I do not see anyone taking the time over the ball that a therough following of 3-F 5 will require. Help please. I think I have a "fair to good" command over #3 feel it is that I am not as precise as I expect impact to be after stopping at address.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
Thanks GG

I need help- let me state the question as best I can.
I have been looking at 3-F-5 seriously. I jump to the end requirement quickly. check - Stance, Grip and plane line but I do this in a static mode. If I take a literal read of 3-F-5 and use 1, 2, 3 to do this check then I would be doing them dynamicly(sp)and the address routine will take a long time. Should I use a longer routine until I am comfortable? Should I later shorten the routine? I do not see anyone taking the time over the ball that a therough following of 3-F 5 will require. Help please. I think I have a "fair to good" command over #3 feel it is that I am not as precise as I expect impact to be after stopping at address.
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The Bear
I shot a video of Lynn "addressing" this very issue. Perhaps some day it'll make its way here. Anyways. Keep going dont forsake precision but try to avoid freezing, tension. That is not good for Motion.

Lynn when playing a shot can make his way through 3-F-5 and more in a very normal amount of time. Purposeful , smooth and not slow in the least. The uneducated eye wouldnt notice anything odd, stiff or slow about it.

3-F-5 THE ADDRESS ROUTING provides further insight into the first three Sections of 12-3. Preliminary Address, Impact Fix and Adjusted Address. And per 8-0 "The Stoke moves from one Basic Position to the next with a precision and smoothness in exact proportion to its completeness and the player's mastery of each element, whether it be consciously or subconsciously acquired. Every move is coldly deliberate, calculated and disciplined".

But again the pace at which its possible to get it all done is not slow once mastered.

As an aside beside 12-3 Section 3 , #10 Waggle -Alignments , Lynn had me write "Shaft", beside #11 Waggle -Pressure Points he had me write "Head" and lastly #12 Waggle-Hinge Action write " Face". Essentially each Waggle has a specific purpose programming wise, they are not just getting loose or affectation. The three waggles taking care of the Three Functions of the golf club individually. Total control of the Three Functions is total control of the golf club. Total control of the golf club is total control of the ball. Lynn will note that a Hogan like waggle Quits at the ball, something you dont want to program. Quiting, 3-F-7-B Golfs second Snare. Something Homer made of point of mentioning after viewing Mr Blake's Hogan like waggle of yesteryear, I believe.

Keep working on 3-F-5 and add to it the three Visualizations and the one "See" , what Lynn terms "The four Sees" of 8-0's second paragraph. All in preparation for the Fifth Programming Routine of 14-0. It's sounds like a lot I know but its purposeful, programing and can be done in a flash with practice.

Wish I could find some footage on line of Lynn walking into a shot. Its beautiful, elegant even. Hoganesque but without the Quiting aspect to the waggle.

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Old 03-25-2010, 12:46 PM
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I found it??
Thanks O.B.
I think I found the video U refer ?

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...ng-Driver.html

I also found in the archives 2 relevant posts:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread2728.html

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread2673.html

the first of these posts does explain the LONGER process list.
The second gets into a subject "dear to my heart" EXTENSOR ACTION 6-B-1-D.
In spite of this being 20% of 12-3-0 I HATE TGM, HK's and Yoda's explanation and application, Oh the principals are necessary, It does not work FOR ME. It builds tension in my hands an makes me grip like a vice and I can still withe "EXTENSOR ACTION" applied bend bothb elbows and scratch my nose. So I am about to readapt to "My way".

I also have a low tolerence for practice. What I mean is I practice for a specific intent and once I get the feel I have lost objective and sit there with 3/4 bucket and no constructive plan.
I would love to find a well constructed practice plan.
This is why I like having a net set up in my yard. I can think of something and go out and check it out.
I realize this can be bad because I jump right to the detail when I should do a careful dertail review.


This is the "mental" section so I am where I belong.

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Old 03-25-2010, 11:17 PM
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Nice references thanks, but not the video I shot, it isnt here. Maybe someday. Its kind of long, I tried compressing it and sending it but it was all blurry and jumpy. I could maybe mail it to Yoda or Bam Bam. Someday.

Bear you've been working hard on this stuff. It's frustrating when you think its all for not. We've all been there, me as recently as today in fact. I always tell myself that its transitional. That Im just too much in my own head, practicing not playing etc. That when it all settles in Ill be fine, better for it. I find it healthy to tell little lies to myself like that.

See Methods 3-C . You have to cut yourself some slack when making changes. When Im working with Lynn and shank one he always says....."your in Crash...dont worry about it". The changes take time to bloom sometimes, not always, but bloom they do.

Extensor Action is a tough one to crack for sure. Shelve it for a while if you have to. It'll come back to you given time.

Drew asked you about something earlier. Something we all tend to do at times. Im wondering now too. Per 5-0 "If you feel your game isnt reflecting your understanding of Alignments ---STOP MONITORING THE CLUBFACE INSTEAD OF YOUR HANDS".

It can be a magic cure for me at times, that one. Dont watch the clubface or clubhead keenly, put your brain in pressure points , in your hands. Swing the Hands. Let the club go where it want to. The Hands are just Clamps.

Monitoring the clubface often induces Hand Action, Steering and mis hits,throwaway the yips etc, etc. Yikes. No one is more aware of the moment of contact than the guy with the yips. Impact is not a Station. I keep relearning the need for the Three Stations to get me out of that mess.

When things arent working out ask yourself which of the Three Imperatives are you missing. Flat left Wrist, Lag Pressure Point, or Straight Line Base Line. If you made me pick the one I wouldnt want to lose itd be Lag Pressure. Its presence alone can cure a lot of ills.

Ha , just realized that those six things will help you control the Three Functions, which gives you the entire Triad doesnt it? Lot of help I am.

Perhaps get the book transcribed into Latin for easier reading?

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Old 03-22-2010, 11:01 PM
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I have now built my swing on elimination of excessive movements. Those little unnecessary things we flop around during a swing. Therefore I now start from a stationary position. I think that is a problem, for me anyway. I believe I useto be in continuous motion before I started the swing. any swing, chip, putt, full or partial. I misshit more from a stop position than with movement. As an example. I can line up 6 balls and step into address and swing one after another with all solid hits but if I pause and check and think about alignments I may misshit? Do I have a common problem? TGM doesn't recogize this problem does it?
Perhaps the movement prior to Startup served a purpose after all, wasnt entirely excessive or unnecessary? Only you can answer that and too what degree. Hogan , like most pro's was in constant motion prior to Startup and he is the golfer credited with removing everything he didnt need from the swing. On the other hand Sergio's old constant pumping thing was more like an affliction than a useful tension reducer.

A lesson with Lynn Blake without a Motion Drill is few and far between. He'd love your observation about the 6 balls and point you in the direction of Wild Bill Melhourne, one of Hogan's teachers by the way , who broke many a golfer's bad habits by using a continuous , never stopping in either direction, constant hitting drill. A line of balls. Brushing the ground in both directions. Shortish half wedges. A line of balls or in extreme cases a thrashing of long grass in both directions. Its an amazing thing and as old as the hills. Still works today too. Apparently V.J. Sing was recently seen doing much the same thing in a patch of long grass adjacent to a practice tee. An anti Steering drill.

Starring at the ball produces muscular tension for me anyways so I try to keep moving and not look at the darn thing so much. I take a picture of the target or flight path of the ball (depending on how far out I am) and try to get it away really quickly as my gaze returns to the ball. Before the staring at the ball or thinking removes the picture from my mind. If Im using an Aiming Point Procedure Im not looking directly at the ball anyways. One reason why our practice swings are so much better is there isnt a ball down there to look at, Steer, tighten up over.

Never look a grizzly bear or the golf ball in the eyes. They'll both get you for it. Or was that a black bear? I dunno. Lions for sure, Im told.

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