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Old 12-14-2009, 06:22 PM
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All ya'll (plural for ya'll) had so much fun with the Basic Motion thread, I thought I'd throw a little Plane work into the mix. This is a different student on the next day. I know the one that I'd have on my team.

Because the light was bad, I marked the location of the clubhead in the last photo.

For someone that constantly hit drop-kicked fat shots, he was happy that he was no longer under Plane.





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Old 12-14-2009, 06:26 PM
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Ted,if its possible to tell it in a nutshell, what did you tell him to feel or do differently?

I can see that he is still on plane in the final image on the right compared to the left. A lot of TGM teaching seems to emphasise the down and out motion and neglects the up and in part. Is this what you were trying to tell him?
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Old 12-14-2009, 07:22 PM
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That's great work Ted. How long do ya think before he gets it ground in? Or is it already ground in for him?

RFT change works. How much more did you change?
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Old 12-14-2009, 08:22 PM
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He's at our range every day. I think he hit almost 30,000 balls last year. He's on one of our range plans. So, they keep up with the numbers. He's been the best customer for two years in a row.

He was asking me a question in the golf shop about Cocking his wrist(s) early. I showed him how the Left Wrist can Cock via Right Elbow bend. I told him the Right Wrist could remain frozen, and he immediately wanted a lesson.

At 300fps you can really see the magnitude of the changes. Stills tell the story, but not as well as the video.

I held my Right Hand on the club when he was in Start Up. I allowed his Right Elbow to bend without Cocking or Bending the Right Wrist. I also eliminated most of the Turning. He obviously thought the club was moving outside the Plane. I told him it was outside his Plane, but it wasn't outside "the" Plane. He said, "Ooooh. Do that again." I asked him to do some very slow rehearsals and to remain uncomfortable. Comfort was going to get us nowhere. He committed to the terrible feel and hit a few balls. The changes looked great, and I quickly grabbed the camera for a second round of video. I wanted him to see the differences so he could relate the bad feel to the good reality.

He was giddy. He sent me an email on his business flight to San Diego. He was so excited that he could make it look like a real golfer that he wanted to practice even more (if that was possible). RFT can re-invent his Plane.
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Well, he'll start playing more, now that you've taken 20 strokes off his game.
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:22 PM
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A lot of TGM teaching seems to emphasise the down and out motion and neglects the up and in part. Is this what you were trying to tell him?
1-L-13,14,&15, 2-J-3, and 5-0 are brilliant. There should be emphasis on these things, but all of it should be kept in context. It shouldn't be exaggerated into a flaw. I think in anything, one can put the em-PHA-sis on the wrong syl-LA-ble.

The Follow Through was a downstream result. We worked only on the Start Up and Backstroke. "As it goes up, so it tends to come down."

I witnessed one of the self-proclaimed TGM prophets, after his daily walk on water, teaching the "up and in" part, and I was underwhelmed. The student ended up looking like a compass drawing a circle on a piece of paper. The sharp circle of balls that he laid on the ground looked like it would have required a very short radius on a very flat plane.
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke View Post
1-L-13,14,&15, 2-J-3, and 5-0 are brilliant. There should be emphasis on these things, but all of it should be kept in context. It shouldn't be exaggerated into a flaw. I think in anything, one can put the em-PHA-sis on the wrong syl-LA-ble.

The Follow Through was a downstream result. We worked only on the Start Up and Backstroke. "As it goes up, so it tends to come down."

I witnessed one of the self-proclaimed TGM prophets, after his daily walk on water, teaching the "up and in" part, and I was underwhelmed. The student ended up looking like a compass drawing a circle on a piece of paper. The sharp circle of balls that he laid on the ground looked like it would have required a very short radius on a very flat plane.
That was worth the price of admission for today's lesson. Great stuff Ted!

I am really enjoying the transformations all ya'll are posting, as well as the lessons in southern english...

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That was worth the price of admission for today's lesson. Great stuff Ted!

I am really enjoying the transformations all ya'll are posting, as well as the lessons in southern english...

Kevin
A good teacher should be able to change his vernacular, so the student is able to understand.

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A good teacher should be able to change his vernacular, so the student is able to understand.

I could be from Min-eh-soooo-tah, don't ya know.
yeah sure, you betcha.

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I witnessed one of the self-proclaimed TGM prophets, after his daily walk on water, teaching the "up and in" part, and I was underwhelmed. The student ended up looking like a compass drawing a circle on a piece of paper. The sharp circle of balls that he laid on the ground looked like it would have required a very short radius on a very flat plane.

Thanks for all this great stuff Ted.

The fella you mentioned, Im trying to figure him out. I had a similar lesson once that confounded me until I met you guys. Was he teaching a covering of the Arc of Approach but with an Arc that was too tight and not a visual equivalent? Its comforting to know that some A.I.'s dont fully understand 2-J-3 cause I sure struggle with it.
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