Back in 1991 I was 33 years old and was bitten by the long drive bug. I knew the yonex rep and had him get me a yonex adx 300 47” driver designed for the long drive team. You would not believe how heavy that driver was. I was working on strength training with a top body builder who I was teaching golf for exchange in body building training sessions.
During a lesson I was showing him how you could set up with fixed alignments or TGM version of “The Bat” and sync the pivot, the lower body, upper body hands and arms all moving together in the back swing and down swing and hit the ball very accurate. This guy was so big that his muscles would get in the way so there was no way to his left or right arm to move across the chest during the swing. One of the things I discovered was for him to make good rotation I had his upper arms set at address with a little space between them and the upper body. I also had a little bend in his left elbow at set up. Both elbows were pointed out slightly at address as well.
Now when he would make a back swing the arms could lift to a hands high position on the back swing and drop easy during the down swing in sync with the total body pivot motion. After working with the swing that look like a slow robotic swing he started hitting balls with a PW and was hitting it 150 yards with a swing that looked like a stiff robot that was hardly moving. I could not believe what I was seeing but ball after ball was hit 150 to 160 yards with a PW. I was just trying to get him to hit it straight and he was hitting it long as well. After the lesson I thought well if it worked for him it will work for me and I worked with the same set up and motion and was hitting a PW 140 to 145 that felt like a slow robotic swing.
The next day I was playing 18 holes with a friend who was a long hitter and I thought why not give this robotic swing a try and see if you can put a drive out past his so on #1 hole which was a par 6 647 yard hole that was straight with a wide fairway. I took that yonex adx 300 drive and used the robotic swing and hit a drive 317 yards down the middle. It felt like I was hardly swinging and very robotic. I used that swing for the rest of the round and was hitting it long and straight all day. I even used the robotic motion for putting, chipping and pitching. I think I shot a 74 that day with a swing that felt like a stiff robot. I was always changing my swing in those days so I did not think much of what had really happened the day I discovered the robotic swing.
Fast forward to today 18 years later.
Today I had a lesson with a guy who was a body builder and I tried this same swing pattern with him and it was a perfect pattern for him and he hit the ball long and straight. His driver was 280 -285 with a slight fade. Just beautiful shots. Well tonight I was searching the internet and came across some pictures of the 2008 Remix Long Drive champion Jamie Sadlowski and I saw a picture of him at impact with the same robotic swing alignments.
Check out this picture.
I think I just might be on to something here. I will shoot a short video for YouTube so you can see what I am talking about. It is a simple pattern that produces long shots with a slight fade. I think I will call the pattern The Robotic Fade.
To Better Golf,
John W Rohan-Weaver CMAI, GSEM
Last edited by purehitter : 03-10-2009 at 01:47 AM.
On another forum , a guy was reporting his success pretending to be JB Holmes.
No wristcock...basically swings with impact alignments, wedges...is that the kind of pattern you are describing?
First the lady in the video has no clue what is going on and the instructor is not much better. There is a left wrist cock going on but JB�s swing but he is feeling a firm structure in the hands and wrist joints and does not feel any left wrist cock.
In the Robitic Fade pattern I am describing you use �The Bat� with fixed alignments and the club head is brought up to the top of the back swing with a little bending in the right elbow and motion from the shoulder girdle. A connected pivot is a big key with this pattern and that is where your upper and lower body with your arms are in sync moving together. There is no run off of the arms in the swing. They stay in sync with the pivot.
It has a robotic firm feel in the hands, wrist joints and shoulder joints. The key to maximizing your body rotation is to have a little space between the upper arms and the upper torso maintaining this with the firm structure of the shoulder girdle. Also key is maintaining the fixed alignments of �The Bat� until the finish swivel. The swing pattern is very easy to repeat and provides lots of distance and precession. You can hit draws and fades with this pattern with some alignment changes at address.
On another forum , a guy was reporting his success pretending to be JB Holmes.
No wristcock...basically swings with impact alignments, wedges...is that the kind of pattern you are describing?
First the lady in the video has no clue what is going on and the instructor is not much better. There is a left wrist cock going on but JB�s swing but he is feeling a firm structure in the hands and wrist joints and does not feel any left wrist cock.
The Robotic Fade pattern I am describing uses �The Bat� with fixed alignments. The right wrist is bent back to where the leading edge of the driver is in line with the right index finger knuckle and the left wrist is level. There is a slight bend in the left elbow and more of a bent in the right elbow at address.
The club head is brought back and in with the pivot and brought up with a little bending in the right elbow and motion from the shoulder girdle. Make sure you have the enough up motion starting at the same time as the pivot or you will take the club head to much inside.
The left elbow at address is positioned about 65 degrees off the target line and off the torso. The right elbow position at address is pointing about 45 degrees off the target line and off the torso. The right elbow position is very important as it provides a brace to prevent the club head from coming to far inside on the take away move all the way up to the back swing. On the down swing this right elbow position also provides a brace and keeps the club head from working under plane. You can use opposing pressure to help maintain the arm structure as well. This is where the right hand is pushing out and the left hand is pulling in. Both forces offset and the feel is like an isometric. This is how I teach TGM extensor action
A connected pivot is a big key with this pattern and that is where your upper and lower body with your arms are in sync moving together from address to the finish. There is no run off of the arms in the swing. The arms stay in sync with the pivot and only raise and lower during the swing. It has a robotic firm feel in the hands, wrist joints and shoulder joints.
The key to maximizing your body rotation with the Robotic Fade pattern is to have a little space between the upper arms and the upper torso, maintaining this with the firm structure of the shoulder girdle. Also key is maintaining the fixed alignments of �The Bat� until the finish swivel. Once you set the alignments of the hands and arms you do not change them until the finish swivel.
Also the swivel motion I am talking about is from the wrists and a little forearm rotation. The left wrist will bend back and the right wrist will flatten during the swivel while maintaining the arm structure. This is why some will think they see a chicken wing but it really is not a chicken wing at all. The Robotic Fade pattern is very easy to learn and repeat and provides lots of distance and precession.
You can hit draws and fades with this pattern with some alignment changes at address.
To Better Golf,
John W Rohan-Weaver CMAI, GSEM
On another forum , a guy was reporting his success pretending to be JB Holmes.
No wristcock...basically swings with impact alignments, wedges...is that the kind of pattern you are describing?
Here is the scoop on The Robotic Fade Pattern.
The Robotic Fade pattern I am describing uses TGM �The Bat� with fixed alignments. The right wrist is bent back to where the leading edge of the driver is in line with the right index finger knuckle and the left wrist is level. There is a slight bend in the left elbow and more of a bent in the right elbow at address.
The club head is brought back and in with the pivot and brought up with a little bending in the right elbow and motion from the shoulder girdle. Make sure you have the enough up motion starting at the same time as the pivot or you will take the club head to much inside.
The left elbow at address is positioned about 65 degrees off the target line and off the torso. The right elbow position at address is pointing about 45 degrees off the target line and off the torso. The right elbow position is very important as it provides a brace to prevent the club head from coming to far inside on the take away move all the way up to the back swing.
On the down swing this right elbow position also provides a brace and keeps the club head from working under plane. You can use opposing pressure to help maintain the arm structure as well. This is where the right hand is pushing out and the left hand is pulling in. Both forces offset and the feel is like an isometric. This is how I teach TGM extensor action.
A connected pivot is a big key with this pattern and that is where your upper and lower body with your arms are in sync moving together from address to the finish. There is no run off of the arms in the swing. The arms stay in sync with the pivot and only raise and lower during the swing. It has a robotic firm feel in the hands, wrist joints and shoulder joints.
The key to maximizing your body rotation with the Robotic Fade pattern is to have a little space between the upper arms and the upper torso, maintaining this with the firm structure of the shoulder girdle. Also key is maintaining the fixed alignments of �The Bat� until the finish swivel. Once you set the alignments of the hands and arms you do not change them until the finish swivel.
Also the swivel motion I am talking about is from the wrists and a little forearm rotation. The left wrist will bend back and the right wrist will flatten during the swivel while maintaining the arm structure. This is why some will think they see a chicken wing but it really is not a chicken wing at all. The Robotic Fade pattern is very easy to learn and repeat and provides lots of distance and precession.
The Robotic Fade Swing Pattern produces a 3 yard fade with the driver. You can hit draws with this pattern with some alignment changes at address.
I have an artificial hip (lead) with a metal rod through the leg. With Daryl's help, and KevCarter's, and Jerry's and OB's and even Bucket's help, I have finally embraced the hip slide and pivot.
My distance is pretty short and I work with a great GSEB who has told me my 9 hip operations have probably determined I will never be that long.
HORSEHOCKEY!
I want to drag my artificial left butt cheek on the tee and start pillaging the neighborhood golf courses!!!!!
I WANT THE ROBOT!!!!! Any tapes or other descriptions , feel free to help a brother out!
Please? I will be studying these posts often!
Patrick
Originally Posted by purehitter
Back in 1991 I was 33 years old and was bitten by the long drive bug. I knew the yonex rep and had him get me a yonex adx 300 47� driver designed for the long drive team. You would not believe how heavy that driver was. I was working on strength training with a top body builder who I was teaching golf for exchange in body building training sessions.
During a lesson I was showing him how you could set up with fixed alignments or TGM version of �The Bat� and sync the pivot, the lower body, upper body hands and arms all moving together in the back swing and down swing and hit the ball very accurate. This guy was so big that his muscles would get in the way so there was no way to his left or right arm to move across the chest during the swing. One of the things I discovered was for him to make good rotation I had his upper arms set at address with a little space between them and the upper body. I also had a little bend in his left elbow at set up. Both elbows were pointed out slightly at address as well.
Now when he would make a back swing the arms could lift to a hands high position on the back swing and drop easy during the down swing in sync with the total body pivot motion. After working with the swing that look like a slow robotic swing he started hitting balls with a PW and was hitting it 150 yards with a swing that looked like a stiff robot that was hardly moving. I could not believe what I was seeing but ball after ball was hit 150 to 160 yards with a PW. I was just trying to get him to hit it straight and he was hitting it long as well. After the lesson I thought well if it worked for him it will work for me and I worked with the same set up and motion and was hitting a PW 140 to 145 that felt like a slow robotic swing.
The next day I was playing 18 holes with a friend who was a long hitter and I thought why not give this robotic swing a try and see if you can put a drive out past his so on #1 hole which was a par 6 647 yard hole that was straight with a wide fairway. I took that yonex adx 300 drive and used the robotic swing and hit a drive 317 yards down the middle. It felt like I was hardly swinging and very robotic. I used that swing for the rest of the round and was hitting it long and straight all day. I even used the robotic motion for putting, chipping and pitching. I think I shot a 74 that day with a swing that felt like a stiff robot. I was always changing my swing in those days so I did not think much of what had really happened the day I discovered the robotic swing.
Fast forward to today 18 years later.
Today I had a lesson with a guy who was a body builder and I tried this same swing pattern with him and it was a perfect pattern for him and he hit the ball long and straight. His driver was 280 -285 with a slight fade. Just beautiful shots. Well tonight I was searching the internet and came across some pictures of the 2008 Remix Long Drive champion Jamie Sadlowski and I saw a picture of him at impact with the same robotic swing alignments.
Check out this picture.
I think I just might be on to something here. I will shoot a short video for YouTube so you can see what I am talking about. It is a simple pattern that produces long shots with a slight fade. I think I will call the pattern The Robotic Fade.
To Better Golf,
John W Rohan-Weaver CMAI, GSEM
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
brother out! 
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