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View Poll Results: Why Did Ben Hogan's Right Foot 'Power Push' Create Extra Power?
1. It increased the 'lag and drag' in the Pivot Train. 29 24.37%
2. It enabled his Instant Acceleration Hip Action and 'Crank the Gyroscope' Drag Loading. 31 26.05%
3. It increased his ability to Thrust his Right Shoulder and thereby accelerate his Left Arm through Impact. 13 10.92%
4. It enabled him to get his Right Elbow further past the Ball during Release. 22 18.49%
5. It enabled a more vertical Straight Line Delivery Path and therefore a smaller Pulley Wheel for his Snap Release. 24 20.17%
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:43 PM
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Ben Hogan's Power Secret
I'm not going to step into the middle of MJ's and Martee's Showdown At The LBG Corral (see below in the Physics Topic), but I thought now might be an interesting time for the following tidbit.

As has been mentioned in prior posts, Homer Kelley learned a great deal about the Golf Stroke from studying the photographs in two books of his time, Sam Snead's How I Play Golf and Ben Hogan's Power Golf. He particularly liked Hogan's book because "the photographs were large and I could really see what was going on."

That said, he had little regard for the text because he quickly found that it did not reflect the reality of the photos. A case in point was Hogan's assertion that he gained Power by pushing off his Right Foot in the Downstroke. Homer agreed that the move did indeed increase his Power, but not because of the 'pushing off.' Instead, it was because...

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all seem to add extra power.But i have gone for the delayed right elbow release.NO. 4
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Some great options there.......

It indeed "lengthened" the pivot train, and "loaded" the drag/lag in a HUGE way

serious LEVERAGE from the ground, every bit of the train 'on track' for impact

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After the stopping the action on this slo-mo film of Mr. Hogan. I voted for number five. His hands drop vertical to a low point that is still behind his right knee
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After the stopping the action on this slo-mo film of Mr. Hogan. I voted for number five. His hands drop vertical to a low point that is still behind his right knee
Count me in on that one.
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After the stopping the action on this slo-mo film of Mr. Hogan. I voted for number five. His hands drop vertical to a low point that is still behind his right knee
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That video is from the Shell Hogan vs. Snead match correct? The weird thing about that video you linked to when he does his "clinic" after the match, that swing is MUCH LONGER than the swing he used during the match to beat Snead like a drum with. His "during the match swing" Backstroke was to Top not to End. He just hit every fairway and every green. Not bad for an old dude with no legs.

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It is from the Shell, but I have yet to see the video ( my bad). I snatched this from a golf forum years ago. I like it because it is slow motion FILM and you can see the club shaft and his hands. The swing in real time is typical Hogan FAST.


btw: I'm glad Lynn never wrote multiple choice tests when I was a student.
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I don't know what option i'd choose but the reason you get extra power from pushing on the ground is the same reason you can jump higher when you squat into the ground to "push off" for extra height.

Its like the difference of a standing in place vertical leap versus one where you are allowed one step and some squat before you jump.

So which option should i choose lol?
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I don't know what option i'd choose but the reason you get extra power from pushing on the ground is the same reason you can jump higher when you squat into the ground to "push off" for extra height.

Its like the difference of a standing in place vertical leap versus one where you are allowed one step and some squat before you jump.

So which option should i choose lol?
But that is the reason Homer says is not what is happening. Any flex in the knee adds additional muscles to "launch" you vertical or horizontal. Adding the thigh muscles would add power over just the calf muscle in jumping or pushing off. Homer and the choices Lynn gives (all sound good- right?) say it is something different.

So... looking up at Clint Eastwood, magnum pointing at me...."So tell me punk, do you feel lucky today?" Ahhh, number 5? No, 1? 2? ????
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After the stopping the action on this slo-mo film of Mr. Hogan. I voted for number five. His hands drop vertical to a low point that is still behind his right knee
Count me in on that one.
This Hogan stroke is not the one Homer studied in "Power Golf". This is the swing described in "5 Lessons".
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