What in the world are we going to do with you? Umh...Umh...Umh.
Oh, well, here we go again...
Supination means to turn the Hand palm up. Therefore it
can be applied correctly to the RotationalMotion of the Hand.
Similarly, Pronation means to turn the Hand palm down,
and that term likewise defines Rotational Motion of the Hand.
But, three problems arise when relating these Rotational Hand Motions to
Golf:
First, in golf the Hands not only make Rotational Motions, they
also make Horizontal and Vertical Motions.
Second, when the Left Hand supinates, it Rolls to
the Left. When the Right Hand supinates, it Turns to the Right.
When the respective Hands pronate, the Turning and Rolling reverse.
Kind of a problem, isn't it, SuperDave? Especially when you're often talking
about Hands that move in the same direction. Homer Kelley solved the
problem by correctly and simply describing the Rotational Motion of both
Hands as 'Turned' (to the right) and 'Rolled' (to the left).
But you think his stuff's too hard, right?
Third, as the Hand supinates (rolls palm up) or pronates (turns
palm down) in its Rotational Plane of Motion, the Wrist -- not
the Hand -- can be in one of three conditions in the Horizontal
Plane. Brian has correctly described one of these Wrist Conditions as 'Arched,'
meaning 'anything shaped like an arch.' [Another tough concept.
Gotta watch that guy Kelley! ]
In this Condition, the Wrist -- either Wrist (there Homer goes again,
using one term to describe the condition of both Wrists!)-- is
flexed outward in the Horizontal Plane. Had it been flexed inward,
the correct term would have been 'Bent, i.e., the state of being
'crooked.' Finally, the Horizontal Wrist Condition that is neither Arched
nor Bent is called 'Flat,' i.e., 'no curves' or 'lying in one
plane.'
So, you see, SuperDave, the term 'supination' applies solely to the Rotational
motion of the Hand. It does not describe the horizontal Arched condition of the Wrist. Nor its horizontal Bent
condition. Nor its horizontalFlat condition. The fact that you
have stated that opinion or that the golf world suffers a similar
delusion as a hangover from the description rendered in Hogan's Five
Lessons some 47 years ago doesn't mean a thing. Except that...
Homer Kelley was right. And, I might add, with the help of his dictionary and
determination not to confuse...
Yoda, if you supinate the left wrist the arch occurs. Mr. Hogan knew that
which was why he called the action supintion and showed the left wrist
turning over.
SuperDave,
As we've seen, using a term that defines a rotational hand motion to
describe a horizontal wrist motion is simply wrong. However,
that's no skin off my green nose; and if you prefer to define the Arched
Left Wrist at Impact as Supination (palm up) that's fine by me. But, I am curious:
Just what term do you use when the Left Wrist has Pronated (palm down)
during the Backstroke and is Arched at the Top? Is this Arched
Wrist still 'supinated?' Can a Wrist pronateandsupinate
at the same time?
Oh me, SuperDave, I guess in your world, probably so. Because...
"To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
At the top of the swing, I would call the wrist position open, closed,
cupped, flat, etc. per common useage.
Roger that, SuperDave.
And of course, the actual Clubface position makes no difference. We're
card-carrying members of the Equal Opportunity Lazy Linguists Society!
A Shut Face and a Bent Left Wrist are just the same as a Shut Face and
an Arched Left Wrist! Or is that a supinated left wrist? Who cares!
They go together nicely, don't you think?
I enjoy your Forest Gump 'chocolate box' approach to golf terminology:
Hybrid Mode
