Anyone who has listened to Homer's telephone conversation with Yoda back in the early 80s will know that Homer is loathe to give recommendations for one component being better than another! "All are equally good...you can obtain the correct alignments with any of the components.." or something like that . Frustrating when you want to be told which is the best one to use!!
Homer does tell us some things though, such as the "correct" alignments eg. wrist position ( right = bent/level/vertical - mid body swinger - left = flat level vertical) AND his preference for zero plane shift and/or turned shoulder plane. Whether you adopt these he leaves to a matter of personal preference.
My thoughts are that some components are dictated to the individual through anatomy. For example plane and plane shift.
Using level wirst alignment,standard grip, a golf shaft of correct length ( for numbered iron) and correct posture the golfer can only align the shaft on one plane. Now if you set up an inclined plane to this angle of shaft plane, drop the shaft and make a backswing pivot - now where does your trail shoulder lie in relation to the inclined plane?
If the inclined plane cuts through the trail shoulder you can use TSP and zero axis shift, if shoulder lies above plane then you must use single shift backswing to get to TSP.
"Let your anatomy dictate the components" - Does anybody agree ? comments please. I have recently taken Homer's advice and built an inclined plane!!
Anyone who has listened to Homer's telephone conversation with Yoda back in the early 80s will know that Homer is loathe to give recommendations for one component being better than another! "All are equally good...you can obtain the correct alignments with any of the components.." or something like that . Frustrating when you want to be told which is the best one to use!!
Homer does tell us some things though, such as the "correct" alignments eg. wrist position ( right = bent/level/vertical - mid body swinger - left = flat level vertical) AND his preference for zero plane shift and/or turned shoulder plane. Whether you adopt these he leaves to a matter of personal preference.
My thoughts are that some components are dictated to the individual through anatomy. For example plane and plane shift.
Using level wirst alignment,standard grip, a golf shaft of correct length ( for numbered iron) and correct posture the golfer can only align the shaft on one plane. Now if you set up an inclined plane to this angle of shaft plane, drop the shaft and make a backswing pivot - now where does your trail shoulder lie in relation to the inclined plane?
If the inclined plane cuts through the trail shoulder you can use TSP and zero axis shift, if shoulder lies above plane then you must use single shift backswing to get to TSP.
"Let your anatomy dictate the components" - Does anybody agree ? comments please. I have recently taken Homer's advice and built an inclined plane!!
Good questions! How does one decide which Plane, or Variation to use? Your idea of ANATOMY is one possibility that makes sense(body type, flexibility, etc.).
The Address POSTURE, and/or SINE ANGLE should also be factors.
Jim Furyk said he came up with his because this was the way he could "feel the clubhead."
Jim Furyk's swing is the living proof that you can get good impact alignments through a variety of components. It is always difficult with the whole "feel versus real" problem even for a top pro like Furyk to be sure of which component really makes him feel the clubhead. I would imagine that it is his lag sensation that is his clubhead feel ? maybe?
I am of the opinion that Jim's swing works well in the highest competition but he could swing even better with a more efficient pattern.
His natural talent makes his relatively inefficient swing work - imagine that same quantum of talent being used to power a more efficient swing!! Would I advise him to search for that swing pattern NOW ?? Only if he wants to become a global force like Woods or Els and win 4+ majors. Imagine Jim's hand eye coordination, steely grit AND a more efficient machine...
Jim Furyk's swing is the living proof that you can get good impact alignments through a variety of components. It is always difficult with the whole "feel versus real" problem even for a top pro like Furyk to be sure of which component really makes him feel the clubhead. I would imagine that it is his lag sensation that is his clubhead feel ? maybe?
I am of the opinion that Jim's swing works well in the highest competition but he could swing even better with a more efficient pattern.
His natural talent makes his relatively inefficient swing work - imagine that same quantum of talent being used to power a more efficient swing!! Would I advise him to search for that swing pattern NOW ?? Only if he wants to become a global force like Woods or Els and win 4+ majors. Imagine Jim's hand eye coordination, steely grit AND a more efficient machine...
Plane is not defined by the clubshaft it is defined by the hands and the sweetspot.
The clubshaft lies on "A" plane - not "THE" plane - (unless zero #3 accumulator) it is the pressure points that should be monitored for a zero shift pattern IMO, and if you watch Furyk's hands (pressure points), you'll see that despite the odd looking motion, there is a very good reason he is as accurate as he is.... his hands stay quite close to 'on plane', on a fairly upright plane angle, for the majority of his motion.
Forget about the shaft - monitor the hands.
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I am of the opinion that Jim's swing works well in the highest competition but he could swing even better with a more efficient pattern.
His natural talent makes his relatively inefficient swing work - imagine that same quantum of talent being used to power a more efficient swing!! Would I advise him to search for that swing pattern NOW ?? Only if he wants to become a global force like Woods or Els and win 4+ majors. Imagine Jim's hand eye coordination, steely grit AND a more efficient machine...
Tell you one, i'll swing like Jim for an entire round and give you a few shots as well. Efficient? Maybe you should criticize someomes swing when you can out perform their ballstriking at the very least.
His alignments are fine and last i checked he was top 10 in the world and has been a consistent member of the ryder cup. You sound like all his coaches who told him:
won't play college golf with that grip (double overlap)
won't play profesisonal golf with that swing
Well we all know what happenend with that above statement.
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I'm not sure if there is one "correct" posture, and that may be a variable in setting up on different planes, but I'd like to tag my own question on to yours:
Assuming a level left wrist at address, what adjustments would you need to make at address to use an Elbow Plane rather than a Turned Shoulder Plane? (Would the left hand grip--and Accumulator #3 angle-- need to change?, etc.) Please be as specific as possible.
. Frustrating when you want to be told which is the best one to use!!
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