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5-0 Monitoring Hand Controlled Pivot

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Originally Posted by noname

Yoda,

But the problem here is, that the shoulders operate quite independently
of one another. [Bold by Yoda.]

I assume you mean "the shoulders [and Hands] operate quite
independently of one another."

Indeed they do. On the Backstroke, for example, the Hands and the #3 Pressure
Point travel always On the Inclined Plane. In contrast, the
Right Shoulder can Turn only "as Flat as possible" to the
Inclined Plane. Coordinated? Of course. Independent? Absolutely!

And that is the beauty of the way we were designed! Throw your car keys to
the floor, and then reach down to pick them up. Did your hand move in a
straight line? You bet it did! Did your right shoulder (assuming you are
right-handed) move with your hand directly on the same inclined plane? Again,
you bet! Did your body -- quite independently and without any separate
instruction from you -- keep its balance and position itself perfectly to
assist the hand in its assigned task? You know it did!

If you understand this simple example, you understand Hand Controlled Pivot.
Use this knowledge for a lifetime of Better Golf!

Ass Controlled Pivot BM#171

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Originally Posted by Squishband

As far as I am concerned this has nothing to do with hands-controlled-pivot
or ass-controlled-hands or any other phrase.

I also don't believe that "What you are doing is as good a
"key" as any for this method. " is a good answer, it is maybe
a good non-answer though. I was looking for some assistance in my
understanding of the need for depth at the top of the backswing to aid in my
understanding of my own swing, but I guess I'm looking in the wrong place....

Ass -controlled Hands.

Man, that's tempting.

Oh, so very tempting.

But, nah...

Let's not go there.

:oops:

Monitoring CE#11

Quote:

Originally Posted by repodesk

I've got a laser. Following the directions of this thread, I've left out the golf club itself. I'm just using the laser in my hand and holding it at PP#3.

My question is: on my downswing while doing this drill, when I get to my impact position - where I expect my body and hands to be - my laser light has not yet returned to the ball. My hands are ahead of the ball and ahead of their address position. Do you think it's possible that I'm allowing the imaginary clubhead/sweetspot get too far behind my hands? I feel like I'm either going to hit it fat, or some other kind of ineffective shot.

If you've taken your Grip and correctly established your Imact alignments in Impact Fix (8-2 and 7-8 ):

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Then, if you return to this position at Impact, then the beam must be pointing at the same place on the Plane Line as it was in Fix.

If, as you say, it is still pointing far behind you, then your Hands have not yet completed their education. In other words, without the Club and Ball, your Hands are incapable of making the correct motion. That must change.

You need to work on the sequenced Release of Accumulators #2 (Wristcock) and #3 (Wrist Roll), from Release (8-9) through Impact (8-10) to the end of the Follow-Through (8-11). Specifically, your work should be per 12-3-0 / Section 9/10/11 Items 37-39 (p. 223 of the 6th edition), the )n-Line Uncocking, On-Line Release Roll and the On-Line Hinge Action. Again, your Hands must be able to produce these motions with their precision alignments monitoring only themselves, i.e., without a Club. Also Study 4-D-0; 6-M-1; 2-B; 6-B-3-0; 2-G; and 7-10.

Finally, per 1-L, mastery of the Pivot (Zone #1) is the essential foundation for the mastery of the Zone #2 Power Components and the Zone #3 Accuracy Components (as dictated by the Hands). Strive for the Turned Shoulder Plane of 10-6-B with its complementing Shoulder Turns of 10-13-B (Flat Backstroke) and 10-13-D (On-Plane Downstroke).

As Homer said, "It's still a struggle. But at least it's a guided struggle instead of a blind one!

The Hand Controlled Pivot CE#29

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgmgolfer2k2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda

let a careful Downstroke Pivot (On-Plane Right Shoulder / 10-13-D) deliver the Lag Pressure Loading (7-19) strongly down the Straight Line Delivery Path (of the Hands). [/b]

So what do you feel "moves" the power package here? It sounds like the body, but that can't be right because that would lead to a pivot controlled hands motion.

The Turning On Plane Right Shoulder (10-13-D) being itself pulled by the Hip Action (7-15) with its accompanying Hip Turn (7-14), if any, is responsible for Power Package Transport.

Just because you use your Pivot components properly doesn't mean you've all of a sudden got a Pivot-Controlled-Hands Procedure. Your Hands are still responsible for executing all the On Plane Geometry, and the Pivot Components must comply. In other words, they do their own work (9-1 and 7-12) as Power Package Transport, but they in no way interfere with the Hands in the process. And they definitely don't tell the Hands what to do.

Trust me: You don't Trace the Plane Line with your Pivot. You don't sustain Clubhead Lag with your Pivot. And you don't control the Clubface alignment with your Pivot. You perform these Three Imperatives with your Hands. That said, mastery of the Pivot is crucial to a good Golf Stroke. In fact, that is why two of the Three Essentials, the Stationary Head and Balance -- both in the realm of the Pivot -- are so important.

But the Pivot, left to its own ignorance, can with its mass and momentum definitely prevent the Hands from doing their assigned work. That is a Pivot-Controlled Stroke.

Not the G.O.L.F. Hands-Controlled procedure that I described in my post.