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Old 03-25-2013, 11:15 AM
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Beyond 6-B-1-D, in edition 6, Is there any additional, significant HK writing, notes , etc. where HK discusses EA?

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I wish to stick to Homer Kelley's work becaus 6-B-1-D contains multiple significant "items" that I have never seen understand of by anyone.

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Old 03-25-2013, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
I wish to stick to Homer Kelley's work becaus 6-B-1-D contains multiple significant "items" that I have never seen understand of by anyone.

HB

Seriously? Do you imply that until you understand, that no one understands?

Look at my drawings for the difference between Extensor Action and the #1 Accumulator because "I" know exactly what I'm talking about.

The following difference (among others) is identified in the yellow book.

A critical difference that everyone needs to grasp, to understand the difference between 6-B-1-D (Extensor Action) and the #1 Accumulator, is that the #1 Accumulator creates a "Paddle Wheel" Action - leading to a Hinge Action, and Extensor Action does not. Yet both use the same Triceps muscle.

Extensor Action will not move the Primary Lever and will not Cock, or Un-Cock the Secondary Lever. If anything, Homer says, EA will "Stifle" CF (And it does). Compare that to Accumulator #1, which "Forces" the Left Wrist to Un-Cock.

I don't want to get to far ahead, but:

Understanding "Stifling" is important. Homer knew that the Ball is not Struck with CF. No Loss of distance will occur once learned. CF can cause Timing issues. Stifling CF (Smoothing it out) lends a more Steady Closing Ratio.

I don't want to get to far ahead, but:

Homer favors "Mass" over "Velocity". The Right Forearm is "ALWAYS" Driving. CF and Straightening of the Passive Right Arm, for Swingers, are simultaneously occurring mechanics.


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First: Establish your Right Hand Grip and the Right Forearm Flying Wedge.

Second: Then and only then, Fix your Left Hand Grip with a "Level" Wrist.

Third: Apply Extensor Action, checking to make sure that the Left Wrist remains Level. If it doesn't, then the Force is not Aligned.

This will teach you the Extensor Action Take-Away. Extensor Action should not change the Left Wrist from Level to Un-Cocked or from Level to Cocked. "Magic of the Right Forearm" Cocks the Left Wrist. If Extensor Action causes the Left Wrist to Un-cock, then "Magic of the Right Forearm" won't work.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:48 PM
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Sorry, but, as I said.

Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Seriously? Do you imply that until you understand, that no one understands?

Look at my drawings for the difference between Extensor Action and the #1 Accumulator because "I" know exactly what I'm talking about.

The following difference (among others) is identified in the yellow book.

A critical difference that everyone needs to grasp, to understand the difference between 6-B-1-D (Extensor Action) and the #1 Accumulator, is that the #1 Accumulator creates a "Paddle Wheel" Action - leading to a Hinge Action, and Extensor Action does not. Yet both use the same Triceps muscle.

Extensor Action will not move the Primary Lever and will not Cock, or Un-Cock the Secondary Lever. If anything, Homer says, EA will "Stifle" CF (And it does). Compare that to Accumulator #1, which "Forces" the Left Wrist to Un-Cock.

I don't want to get to far ahead, but:

Understanding "Stifling" is important. Homer knew that the Ball is not Struck with CF. No Loss of distance will occur once learned. CF can cause Timing issues. Stifling CF (Smoothing it out) lends a more Steady Closing Ratio.

I don't want to get to far ahead, but:

Homer favors "Mass" over "Velocity". The Right Forearm is "ALWAYS" Driving. CF and Straightening of the Passive Right Arm, for Swingers, are simultaneously occurring mechanics.
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Q.E.D.

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Old 04-21-2013, 01:02 PM
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Feeling the EA in the #3 PP
I have recently discovered a takeaway method that produces more EA feel throughout my stroke. i would like to share it in this thread to see if i can learn more from your feedback.

in the RFT, My focus is to feel as if my right arm is on a slightly outer or higher path to top than my left arm. Or, I could say that my left arm feels as if it moves slightly inside my right to top. Of course feel and real are two different things but some how my concentration on this move produces a steady pressure that I can monitor. Further, with steady EA comes an increased ability to monitor the impact wrist conditions......the TGM concepts are better controlled with constant pressure as well. Impact and ball flight are consistently solid.

Prior to learning this subtle feel, I was having trouble maintaining even pressure. Not sure how or if HK has a lesson that describes what I've come into. Anyone with an explanation?
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fangster View Post

My focus is to feel as if my right arm is on a slightly outer or higher path to top than my left arm.

Not sure how or if HK has a lesson that describes what I've come into. Anyone with an explanation?
Jack Nicklaus did this with pretty good results!

This would require the Single Wrist Action(no left wrist roll on the BS) of an Angled Hinge Swinger(no roll on the DS). It's a great way to play by eliminating the left side of the golf course, provided you can afford to give up the extra power available from Horizontal Hinging.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by planetracer View Post
this is my first post. though i have been learning a lot from all on this site. thanks Lynn and to all that contribute.
my question is on extensor action. when i try to focus on EA it always seems to build tension into my game and i swing worse.
does this happen for anyone else, and how can i use EA without adding any extra tension into my swing?
When done ea should actually relieve tension it is only keeping the structure at its natural length the left arm should not be locked straight the length and bend of your left arm as it hangs naturally is the length it should be at at all times. Try this grip the club at setup and with soft arms bring the club in towards u now stretch the left arm to its natural length the club down to the ball you'll notice this in a lot of pros routines the arms shpuld be completely soft the right tricep exerting a very small amiunt of pressure in tgw direction of the left arm below plane do this drill at setup u will be tension free with structure
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:59 PM
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Word of thanks
Just wanted to say thanks to Daryl specifically for his feedback and instruction on EA. Used it on my putting practice session today, and the precision / distance control was exceptional. Never used or heard to use EA on putting. Also had been struggling with irons. Your comment on remembering to setup up with right hand first, right forearm on plane, then setting left hand with lest wrist to an inline position was spot on. Taking the club back on plane, and delivering it down / out in the slot.

Much appreciation.
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